Was it an easy decision to start working with hein?
Fortuyn: ‘Not immediately, no. Spending money on “changing behaviour” requires some thought first. What are the returns? We weren’t sure whether we wanted to invest, at first, but if you look at the trinity of safety…
Technically, we’ve got it all together, that’s really quite easy. Managing processes and systems is slightly more complicated, but we do well in that aspect, too. Successfully influencing behaviour, that’s the tricky part. But you have to do it one way or another.’
Van Bree: ‘After my role in the company changed, I became responsible for organizing the annual Safety Day. No plans had been made on how to realize it, yet, but there was little time, and I needed something that would “activate people”. After a bit of google searching, I came across Jules Heijneman’s website. Bullseye. Initially, then, we wanted hein for a one-off session.’
Deeper insights, better choices.
‘The Safety Day turned out to be rather popular, but we concluded that a one-off approach to hein wasn’t actually that useful. However, we were also apprehensive about starting a large-scale project with hein, which was still at an early stage at that point.’
Fortuyn ‘We could only look at Linde Gas, and seeing how hein had done there was very important for us. Linde and Siemens make sure to look at what the other is doing: if Linde had opted for hein and liked what they had seen, that would be a good sign for us.
Van Bree: ‘We went for it, and we went for it big. We carefully watched how it was implemented in the workspace in my department, joining in with a large number of sessions. We immediately came across topics that we had never heard about before, a truly unique experience. You can really see the changes in the departments: they become open, leading to deeper insights and better and more conscious choices.’
Now hein is making its way to the top. Management must understand what hein entails from all the reports they’ve read, so is it necessary for them to experience hein first hand?
Together: ‘Absolutely, everyone in the company is part of the programme.’ Van Bree: ‘Of course, hein sessions for upper management will have a slightly different character, because there are different dilemmas at every level. If anything, we’ll be even more thorough for upper management, because behaviour is even more important for them. The people in charge hold the key to behaviour throughout the whole organisation, and this means they also hold the key to safety.’
Fortuyn: ‘You can look at this question from the perspective of the worldwide Zero Harm Culture @ Siemens programme, which we’re connecting hein to as well. The most important principle in this programme is: ‘Don’t compromise when it comes to safety’, not even if our client asks us to. Now you have to understand that Siemens Nederland is also active abroad on a permanent basis. Many of our clients are located in Asia, in cultures where saying “no” is met very differently than here.’
Everyone must feel supported.
'In the field, possibly in a remote location, whole teams of people might be waiting for you, the Siemens delegate, to solve a problem before they can resume work again. Every day of inaction costs a lot of money, but you might have just come off a 12-hour flight, you might have a jetlag, the final part of the journey could be a long stretch on local transport, it could be hot. Getting straight to work in these situations is simply not safe. From a safety perspective, then, you have to get some sleep first, but that won’t be a popular decision everywhere. Nevertheless, safety is important wherever you are, and you have to be able to rely on the people in charge to support you in your decisions. They, of course, have to be supported as well.
For that reason alone, upper management has to talk about behaviour. Many behavioural programmes only focus on the workplace, but the force field employees encounter there is a direct result of decisions made by people higher up, so behavioural programmes require an approach that addresses the workplace, as well as upper management. Hein appeals to both, and that’s pretty unique.'